Bernard Zick's

Advice for the Impatient Investor

For real estate investors who don't have time or money to waste!  

November 2004

 

Editors: Bernard "Barney" Zick bernard@zick.com, Karen Zick and Amy McIntee

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In this issue:

Getting Started

Advanced Strategies

A Special Offer Just for Subscribers!

Foreclosure Boot Camp in Houston

Upcoming Events

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Getting Started:

Q.  Bernard, I have a friend and client in the Houston area and they need a small hard money loan using a second on a home he has recently purchased.  I would appreciate receiving the referral information on your source and of course would be willing to pay you a referral fee for the referral based on the outcome of the loan request.

 

This is a house that he bought for his own use and had to rent it out for now.  It is in Woodville, TX and he says it will appraise for $50,000 and he owes $39,000 on it now.  This is payable at the rate of $330. P & I at 9.25%.

 

If there is interest in lending him $5000 as a second he would be very interested in such a loan.

 

He will be using the funds to organize a small business there in the Houston area. (They do leak testing in the refinery & chemical business.)

 

Let me know how to get them together if you or they have interest.

 

I do enjoy your e-mails monthly.

 

Thanks,

 

DCS

 

A.  He has a problem.  Conventional lenders do not want loans of $50,000.  Private lenders only go up to 70% of value and a $5000 loan is not worth the time and effort let alone legal expense (last one cost $1400) to do. Best he run an ad or ask a friend.

 

BZ



 

Q.  I have $250,000 to invest which should secure over $1,000,000 in property at an 80% lend (90% would be better).  I need to achieve at least a $100,000 per year net cash flow from this.

 

I am currently looking at Buffalo, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia which all look promising.  Maybe I can find a "local market" lender in those areas.  I am also aware that Florida, Houston, Washington and Nevada are good at the moment.

 

Which of the above locations do you feel I should focus my research on to fit my goal?

 

I have been doing some further research and it is time that I formalized what lending I have available to me.  What loans are you able to provide for me in my Australian trust?  Can you send me some information on the loans you can organize and what you would need from me to enable the lender to give written approval (unconditional)?  At this stage I am still focusing on Buffalo.  Best regards

 

Mike

Melbourne, Australia

 

A. 

I make loans in 46 of the 50 states.  I have not heard much about Buffalo, Pittsburg or Philly as being growth areas.  They generally give good cash flow however.

 

The other four have had loss of rapid price appreciation for the last two or more years.

 

Your numbers are right on investing. $250,000 will get you a $1,000,000. However a cash on cash return of 40% is really out of the realm of the possible.  If someone tells you differently, they are just blowing smoke!

 

If you buy and sell a few times and build your investment base, maybe.  It also might be possible to make after tax profits of that level and do it again the next year.  But cash on cash is not that super in the US and we have some of the best return around the world.

 

I just did a shopping center with some students that took $500,000 down and paid 15% but that was a fabulous return.

 

I might be able to do that on tax sales or hard money loans, but equities, just on cash flow, no.

 

Just being honest.

 

I moved to Texas because it has the second highest population growth (behind California), and it is still relatively cheap.

 

I expect great appreciation and good deals.

 

Let me know if you are serious and need help and we can set something up.

 

Loans here are three kinds:

·         Residential, 1-4 family.

·         Commercial and investment

·         Private

U.S. lenders will not lend to a trust on a 1-4 family.  It would have to be to you and then you put the property into a trust.  1-4 family are covered by RESPA laws and most of the loans are uniform in style and policy.  A commercial lender might loan to a trust but you would pay for the lack of personal liability.  You would pay in lower loan to value ratio and perhaps interest.  

 

Private lenders are asset based lenders and do loan to any entity but with only low loan to value loans and at high interest rates.  If this is a 1-4 family, go to www.zickhomeloans.com.  You will need "papers" to borrow here and that will take a while but that is the site.  We will soon have another site up for commercial loans.  Is this one?  Same for hard money or private loans.

 

BZ

Advanced Strategies:

Recently a student told me about a duplex and 4-plex he just closed on in Florida.  He stated he is looking for the highest and best use and is thinking of converting to condos.  Since he’s never done that before and knows very little about it, he asked for my input.  The only additional information he provided to me is that there are condos and apartments all around them in the ocean block. 

 

I advised him to consult a lawyer that specializes in this and to run the numbers.  He needs to pull comps, etc.  The numbers dictate.  And he needs to be negative when estimating sales price.  There are 18,000 condos being built now and about 3,000 purchased each year, or some such numbers.

 

The basic advantage of converting to condos is for profit.  You are selling an income producing asset, so be sure to get all you can.  The sum of the parts (condos) must be greater than the whole (apartment building) when sold.  There is no rule of thumb on increased value from condos.  I told him he needs to know what condos around there are worth.  Remember you have to make the interiors top notch.  That means latest décor and new appliances, maybe $10,000 per unit.  Take sale price, less cost of sale, less cost of fix up, less cost of legal, less cost of buying and see if you have a profit that makes it worth the hassle.



Q.  I want to ask for your experience on a couple of deals that I have going on.  First deal is a lady that wants to give me her house just to take over payments.  Her mortgage balance is $61,440. with monthly payments of $707. PITI.  What I want to do is get her to sign over her deed to me and I promise to pay her monthly payments until I sell her house and it is paid off with another loan.  I need to do some work in the house and want to protect myself.  What is the procedure that you think I should follow?  I have an attorney and he claims that all these seminars I have gone to are a scam and will bite me - you know where.  I have told him that I do not want to close on this property, but only to tie it up so that I can retail it.  He finally says he can do the paper work, and can do it for #$%%&***.  I know that you have been there.  If I had a complex deal I would use an attorney to draw up the papers, but I figure that this is quite simple.  I just have not done one of these and want to protect myself and do it by the numbers.  Please outline what you would do.

 

The second deal I mentioned to you in Austin is that the owners of a house died.  The woman left only a power of attorney to her brother before she died.  No other kin.  I spoke to the attorney’s assistant that tried to probate or settle the estate, but the brother is 86 and does not trust attorneys.  The lady told me that he will inherit the house, but must go to probate and finish up if the judge has not already thrown it out.  The cost she said would be between $2,500 and $3,500 to finish up the probate.  So Barney, what do I do and how would you lay this out for me.  Remember that I am that slow talking cowboy from south Texas.  Get in your overalls!!  If you would rather call, or me call you, just let me know what is a good time for you.  I know you’re a busy man and I told Karen that I would not hesitate to call you on your cell if I had something big, but I have until Thursday or Friday on the first deal.

 

Thanking you in advance...

 

Sincerely,

 

RG

 

A.  You did not tell me the profit on the first house so I will assume you have one.  If you do not want to put the house in your name, why not get an option to buy the house for the amount of the back payments plus $1.00?  Say clearly in the option that the deed is being given to you and after you have had enough time to check the title, review the marketability of the house and try to find an end buyer, you will record the deed to you or to your buyer.  Make sure you are clear (maybe in bold letters) if you do not get a positive response you will void the deed and return it to the owner.  In the meantime, you will keep the payments current.  Then get the deed signed and notarized.  Get a notice of option notarized and recorded.  Then follow through.  I will never tell any student not to get an attorney but I do these monthly without one.

 

On the second deal, you have two choices.  Have them give you the deed, don’t record it but go to the court to see what has to be done.  It will be time consuming but a great “seminar.”

 

Or, work with an attorney.  I would pick the latter if there is enough profit in the deal but then I am hiring everything done, including taking my laundry out, in that I am out of time every day!  If you are just watching the Texas pecans grow, go to court.

BZ

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Foreclosure Boot Camp in Houston

We are part of a multi-speaker event about Foreclosures being held in Houston on November 4th - 7th, 2004.  For additional information or to register, send an email to Marilyn at our office and put “Foreclosures/Houston” in the subject line.  Or, use this link to register and be sure to select "REIT Corp." from the pull-down menu on the registration form.

 http://ultimateforeclosuresystem.com/REIA/

If you would be interested in us doing an event like this in Southern California, let us know. Send us an email to Marilyn and put "Foreclosures/Southern California" in the subject line.

 

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Next Mortgage Business Builder Boot Camp

 

San Diego, CA

 

Fri., Sat. & Sun., December 3rd, 4th & 5th

 

Details below…

 


Upcoming Events

 

Mortgage Business Builder Boot Camps

  

December 3rd, 4th & 5th, 2004 in San Diego

 

Courtyard by Marriott
717 South Hwy 101
Solana Beach, CA 92075
858-792-8200

 


Click here to register for a Mortgage Business Builder Boot Camp.


Go to www.zickhomeloans.com  for  more information and select "Contact Us" or call our office at 800-677-3253.



Questions?  Send us an email or call 800-677-3253.


Go to  Barney's Website for more information about educational events and materials.

Go to  Karen's Website to apply for a 1-4 family loan or join us as a mortgage loan originator.

Go to  Zick Investment Properties to sell us a property or get a web site to sell your properties.


OUR ALL FUND MORTGAGE /FREEDOM EQUITY GROUP TRAINING NOT ONLY CAN PAY YOU BACK ALL THE COSTS, IT CAN PAY YOU BACK FAR MORE THAN YOU INVESTED!

ABOUT PARTICIPATION…

We have done two fantastic three-day Mortgage Business Builder Boot Camps and now we are ready to bust the seams out with our December San Diego Training!

The first one was in
Chicago in September. The second one was in Houston. Next, we're headed to San Diego…

Cost

The cost of the training is $2195. You can pay it all at once. However, I believe in our program and know if you work our program you will make lots of money. So here is the deal. I’ll bet two-thirds of that on your success…

- If you are signed up under us, you can attend for $695 up front and we will take $500 out of each of your first three loans to complete the follow up training.
- If you are not signed up under us, but under someone else, you can pay $695 at registration and attend the event, and pay your recruiter the $500 per loan or get a consulting help package from us for the same.
- If you are not signed up at all, you must pay $695 to attend, but you can only attend the first two days. If you sign up for Freedom Equity Group/ All Fund during the two days you can stay for the third day which is our Marketing and Sales Program.  So the bottom line is, get signed up and plan on attending.

By the way, if you are already with Freedom Equity Group/All Fund with a different recruiter, you can send your recruits for training. They pay us the $695 you will get the three training loans and paid $500 for each.

In fact, anyone on our team that attends can do the same with their recruits. So you see, you are better off going to our training in two ways.  First, you get trained, secondly, you will get paid for signing up for someone for training when you help with their first three loans!

Our hope is that you will catch fire in this business and by the time you do the first three loans you have made all your educational investment back. So, bottom line, if you work the program there is no cost; it pays!

Husbands, wives and children

If you want to bring one of these into the business, great! If they are signed up and a part of the business, they pay just like you do. And, we will do the training loans with them too.

If they are just assisting you with the business, they can attend for $295 to cover our room costs, coffee breaks, etc.

If your child is between 14 and 18 years old, really interested, and can pay attention (don’t you dare drag them there!), they can attend for $50. Children over 18 can pay the $295. Where else can you attend a three day event and learn a business for so little?

The book you will receive will be for studying after the event. We will have a fill-in outline that everyone will receive. There will be one book for each full-paying participant.

More than your money back!

If you are signed up under us, you can return to attend the training for free. All you have to do is bring someone you signed up under you!

Think about it. When you return with your recruit, you get to come for free, they pay us the $695, but YOU collect the $500 per loan when training THEM on their first three loans.

For us, we get our costs covered. It costs us at a MINIMUM $695 per person to put on a three day event. We don’t really make money unless you or your associates you sign up make money with placing loans.

They get profits from placing loans, giving them their educational investment back. You get trained associates, we build our shop. It is a win-win deal all around.

Guess what? Your associates can do the same. They can come back for free bringing as many people as they want AS LONG AS THOSE PEOPLE ARE SIGNED UP under them! You get the picture.

Will the ground floor be empty?

You are getting in on the ground floor, so you may be asking yourself…will the ground floor be empty of content? Since we are new at doing these trainings, will we be learning how to train on your dime?

Absolutely not. First of all, Barney will be at the first three trainings talking about Sales and Marketing. He spent 15 years teaching these topics to businesses from New York Stock Exchange firms down to a two-man firm in England. This is a secret part of his career not known to most real estate investors. His results have been staggering. One firm, a national blood testing company, said that after his training, sales rose 15% over their previously best month ever. The English direct mail company, that made over a million a year, got the biggest boost ever from Barney’s ideas, and that is after five years of searching for the best consulting in England and putting their ideas to play. Barney increased their profit margin!

Secondly, we have one of the best company trainers coming out to teach the two technical days. You will learn how to present our best loan to prospects, how to present the opportunity to recruits and how to do the loan paper work. It will be an information packed event.

Best way to sign up…

Do it via our web site and we will follow-up or do it by calling our office 800-677-3253.

Do it today!

Click here to register for an upcoming  Mortgage Business Builder Boot Camp.



It Pays to Attend and Costs to Miss Out

Just to let you know, we are putting into place a new policy. When you sign up for a  boot camp, we will get your credit card information. If you DO NOT show up, we will be charging you a “no show” fee. This is done throughout the industry. We pay for room size, order coffee and hire help depending on the number of people signed up. In order to keep costs in line, this "no show" fee will be in effect from now on.


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We have an approximate $100,000 value free and clear house in one of the better parts of Houston that we want to put a 70% LTV first mortgage on in the next week or so. Our joint owner student has an appraisal, a property inspection and a title commitment. We will pay 9% plus documents cost. Closing will be done by Quincy Long, JD of American Title. If you have money just sitting in an IRA and want a good yield on your money, let us know (or make us an offer! I do have home study courses for points!) I’ll guarantee his loan. Just put “loan” in the subject line of your email to bernard@zick.com.

P.S. We have offers at 11% but we are hoping to do better! Reply now or the loan will be closed.

P.P.S. We have another student who needs a first at 10% for $35,000 for six months.

 

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