Bernard Zick's

Advice for the Impatient Investor

For real estate investors who don't have time or money to waste!  

March 2005

Editors: Bernard "Barney" Zick bernard@zick.com, Karen Zick and Amy McIntee

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In this issue:

Getting Started:  The Foreclosure Financing Dilemma and some Questions & Answers

Advanced Strategies

Record Number of Metros Show Double-Digit Home-Price Gains

Upcoming Events

Getting Started: 

The Foreclosure Financing Dilemma -- WHO IS YOUR SUGAR DADDY NOW?

This seems to be one of the most asked questions --  Can you get me a loan for a property that is going to be foreclosed on the 29th of this month?”

Generally speaking, the answer is "No."  Are there exceptions?  "Yes."  Let's explore.

1.      Conventional lenders. Generally, no. Why? They take very little time to do an owner occupant re-finance but investor loans seem to take forever. What most people think about as a 30 day process is more like 90 days.  Is that just slow old us? NO! I don’t always have Karen do all my loans. For various reasons, like the seller was already working with a lender and they have half the stuff like appraisals to them and approved.  It still takes 90 or more days. But that is not the real problem. The real problem is that a foreclosure needs an instant close. Read on and you will see.

2.      Hard money loans.  It would seem a natural, but it is not. Here is why. You get pre-approved at www.realvestfunding.com for a $150,000 loan. Great. But to close, the lender needs the deed and has to get a title policy. You say, "Give me the money and I can get you the deed and a title policy.” They say, "Give me the deed and title policy and I will get you the money."

Hard money lenders HAVE to be certain of the title policy and that will not be possible until AFTER you close.

That is the "No" part of "Can you get me a loan?"

However, there is hope. This is why I really only enjoy working with my students. They know all of the above and also, when I get creative with solutions, they know where I am going.

I will not have room here to spell out all the details, but here are a few ideas.

3. Lease with Option. Option the property for the amount of money needed to bring it current. Lease the property for the payment amount only. Now the foreclosure is stopped and you can sometimes do a refinance loan based on value, not cost…especially if you find the option in the 13th month of holding.

4. Option. Option the property for the amount of money needed to bring it current. That will buy you time. Then get a hard money loan for what it will take to buy it AND fix it. Now you are in at minimum down and better set up for the next move…refinance or sell.

5. Take “subject to.” The down payment is enough to bring them current and you take the property “subject to” the existing loan.  Additionally, you add three magic things to the contract that are legal and those three things increase the contract price by about 20-30 percent. (Yes, you will have to come to one of our seminars to learn about them.  I don’t want a 22 page e-newsletter!)

Now, when you refinance later it is much easier to get all the money you have in the deal out again.

Bottom line…if you know how lenders lend and what they will and will not do, you know better when to bring what kind of lender to the table.

That is why we have changed our emphasis to financing.  It seems to be the weak spot in the knowledge bank for most new people.

Also, if you are willing to really learn the financing side of the business, you can make money there as a loan originator. It is the best second income for an investor I have ever found!



Questions & Answers

Q. I would like some information about partners that want to invest in rehabs.  I will do the work but need financial backing.  I am located in Lebanon, Tennessee and currently own my own home and a duplex.  I have found a property that I want to put an offer on but need to research financing.  I am self-employed, starting to become an investor full time.

I saw on your newest Web site, RealVestFunding.com, that you do joint ventures.  Would this be what I need?

Thank you,

Linda

A. Thanks for your interest but we do not do one-house-at-a-time projects.  The joint venture financing we had in mind is for projects such as a subdivision purchased all at once, etc.

I have one “Platinum” student that can go between $1 million and $5 million.  Another at $3,000,000.  Most deals that take little cash, like $500,000, we do ourselves or do a small syndication.

If you want backers for single deals, try newspaper ads or talk to local contractors that might want to buy houses from you wholesale.  Anther great source is your local real estate investors group.  Most have a waiver of membership fees for the first time visitor.

Do like I did a month ago.  I started talking to my barber.  This deal took $90,000 and I knew he could get it.  He was lukewarm but mentioned a person that had helped him do his last deal.  I called that person up and got where I needed to be.

You’d be surprised that the people you know may not be prospects, but the person THEY know might be…and he was!

Also attend free financial lectures.  The insurance people have them all the time in the best parts of town.  They invite the people in the richest ZIP codes to attend.

I had a student once that put out fliers at a meeting on estate planning held by the local Junior College. He got a call from an attorney that had a condo for sale…very cheap.

Seems the dearly departed had the condo for his girlfriend and no one wanted the wife and kids to hear all the details.  He was told to dump it and he did.  My student made $100,000 on a zero down deal.  The lawyer later became an investor in several other deals.

One nice thing about sticking with the business is that over time, you get better, your circle of acquaintances gets richer and the deals get easier to understand.

That is a good place to start.

BZ



Q. One of my insured’s wants me to buy his old downtown, 1890, rental property.  Mercantile first floor and apartment upstairs.  Both floors need modernizing.  I am beginning to think I do not want to take on anymore projects that take a lot of work.  The front looks pretty good, it is downtown and I can get some Main Street money to fix up the front of the building, $5,000.  Owner wants $52,000 and maybe will take a little less.  Depending what a person wants to do with the first floor, could leave as is and have cheap rent, $400, or restore original plaster walls and sheetrock 14 foot ceilings, install hardwood looking floor plus new bath and heat/ac system.  Then could maybe get $700/m to $900 rent.  It does have a hand rope elevator from the basement up to the second floor that works.  It could use a good flat roof, $5-7,000 of work.  Just wondering if this is a good deal...

Your Friend,

Jim in Missouri

A. You’re a businessman.  Add the cost of all the improvements back in to the purchase price.  This will tell you what you will really have in the building.  Then figure out how much of all this has to be cash out of pocket from you.  Then look at the income you would get versus the investment you just made.  Don’t use numbers assuming that you will do the repairs yourself.  It takes too much of your time.  Therefore, you need to add in the cost of HIRING the stuff to be done.  If, after all that, it gives a nice rate of return, you can always decide to save a buck and do some of the repairs yourself.

This will give you a full picture of what you are getting into.

Also, take into consideration…will this be an easy to rent property in the future?  From our phone call I assume it will be.  However, when you are figuring income, make sure you get a realistic vacancy figure in there.  Lastly, where will you get the money?

I know you most likely have it stashed away.  But for a small deal like this you will most likely be going to your bank.  Get a quote from them before you sign anything.

Get a look at the full picture, then decide.  Since you own a few rentals in town now, this would seem to be a good addition.

BZ

Advanced Strategies:

Q. Dear Mr. Zick, I hope you’re feeling better. I met and spoke with you briefly at the All Fund Mortgage Las Vegas gathering. My business partner and I are part of Karen's down line here in Denver. We are excited about the prospects.

The reason for my email to you is to inquire further about your finance company, Realvest. As part of my network with other real estate investors, I think there is an opportunity to originate loans for 5-plexes+ as well as construction loans. In particular, I wanted to learn further about the underwriting requirements and loan programs for: 1. Purchases of 5-plexes+ and 2. Condo conversions -- purchase and construction loan to rehab and sell off a unit at a time. Is it permissible to obtain releases to sell off units at a time during the construction period?

An investor group in Denver is pretty active in condo conversions. I would like to give them a pitch on Realvest if it would be a good fit. I look forward to hearing from you. Take care.

Regards,

Mark

A. Do you have a builder in mind that is doing 5-plexes? It is a niche market but it has to have a builder that is good at buying site for it to work. Let me be blunt. Given time and reason, we can do almost any loan that can be done. The problem is that we are not getting loan packages from our students; we are getting "what if..." emails. You might be past the “what if” stage but it is hard to tell on this end. Here is what works best for me...send us a short summary of what you want to do, time limits, amounts and roadblocks. It can be one to three pages. If you are serious, you will need this anyway for whomever you talk to. We can pass a summary by our sources more easily too.

You have to realize that bigger is better for us. Out of the way loans, like this, hopefully will be in the $2.5 million range on up. If it is a local (Houston), commercial loan on an existing rented building, a loan as low at $500,000 would not be a problem.

BZ


Record Number of Metros Show Double-Digit Home-Price Gains

(February 15, 2005) --   A record number of metropolitan areas showed double-digit annual price appreciation in median existing-home prices in the fourth quarter, and the overall pace of annual price growth accelerated from the third quarter, according to the latest survey by NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS®.

The association's fourth-quarter metro area home price report, covering 129 metropolitan statistical areas, shows 62 areas with double-digit annual increases in median existing-home prices and only four areas posting modest price declines. The previous record was 49 metros showing double-digit price appreciation in the second quarter of 2004.

The national median existing-home price was $187,500 in the fourth quarter, 8.8 percent higher than a year earlier when the median price was $172,400. The median is a typical market price where half of the homes sold for more and half sold for less. In the third quarter of 2004, the national annual rate of home-price appreciation was 7.5 percent.

The strongest price increase was in the Las Vegas area where the fourth quarter price of $281,400 rose 47.3 percent from a year earlier. Next came the Riverside-San Bernardino area of California at $322,400, up 34.7 percent from the fourth quarter of 2003. Third was the West Palm Beach-Boca Raton-Delray Beach area of Florida, with a fourth quarter median price of $338,800, up 34.0 percent in the last year.

Median fourth-quarter metro area resale prices ranged from $87,800 in Beaumont-Port Arthur, Texas, to more than seven times that amount in the San Francisco Bay area where the median price was $656,700. The second most expensive area in the United States was Anaheim-Santa Ana (Orange County, Calif.) at $627,500, followed by San Diego at $569,900.

Other low-cost markets include Springfield, Ill., the second least-costly area, at $93,600, and Buffalo-Niagara Falls, N.Y., with a fourth-quarter typical resale home price of $94,800.


—NAR

Reprinted from REALTOR® Magazine [February, 2005] (http://www.realtor.org/realtormag)  with permission of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS®. Copyright 2005. All rights reserved.



Go to Barney's Website for more information about educational events and materials.

Go to Karen's Website to apply for a 1-4 family loan or join us as a mortgage loan originator.

Go to  Zick Investment Properties to sell us a property or get a web site to sell your properties.

Go to Realvest Funding for more information about financing.

Register for an Options Boot Camp at http://www.zick.com/speventreg.html.

Register for a "How to Finance ANY Deal!" Boot Camp at http://www.zick.com/FinanceAnyDealBCreg.htm.

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Register for a FREE "Financing Your Next Best Deal" Help Day at http://www.zick.com/HelpDayreg.htm.

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Questions?  Send us an email or call 800-677-3253.



OUR ALL FUND MORTGAGE /FREEDOM EQUITY GROUP TRAINING NOT ONLY CAN PAY YOU BACK ALL THE COSTS, IT CAN PAY YOU BACK FAR MORE THAN YOU INVESTED!

ABOUT PARTICIPATION…

We have done three fantastic three-day Mortgage Business Builder Boot Camps.

The first one was in Chicago in September. The second one was in Houston. The third was in San Diego in December. 

Cost

The cost of the training is $2195. You can pay it all at once. However, I believe in our program and know if you work our program you will make lots of money. So here is the deal. I’ll bet two-thirds of that on your success…

- If you are signed up under us, you can attend for $695 up front and we will take $500 out of each of your first three loans to complete the follow up training.
- If you are not signed up under us, but under someone else, you can pay $695 at registration and attend the event, and pay your recruiter the $500 per loan or get a consulting help package from us for the same.
- If you are not signed up at all, you must pay $695 to attend, but you can only attend the first two days. If you sign up for Freedom Equity Group/ All Fund during the two days you can stay for the third day which is our Marketing and Sales Program.  So the bottom line is, get signed up and plan on attending.

By the way, if you are already with Freedom Equity Group/All Fund with a different recruiter, you can send your recruits for training. They pay us the $695 you will get the three training loans and paid $500 for each.

In fact, anyone on our team that attends can do the same with their recruits. So you see, you are better off going to our training in two ways.  First, you get trained, secondly, you will get paid for signing up for someone for training when you help with their first three loans!

Our hope is that you will catch fire in this business and by the time you do the first three loans you have made all your educational investment back. So, bottom line, if you work the program there is no cost; it pays!


Husbands, wives and children

If you want to bring one of these into the business, great! If they are signed up and a part of the business, they pay just like you do. And, we will do the training loans with them too.

If they are just assisting you with the business, they can attend for $295 to cover our room costs, coffee breaks, etc.

If your child is between 14 and 18 years old, really interested, and can pay attention (don’t you dare drag them there!), they can attend for $50. Children over 18 can pay the $295. Where else can you attend a three day event and learn a business for so little?

The book you will receive will be for studying after the event. We will have a fill-in outline that everyone will receive. There will be one book for each full-paying participant.


More than your money back!

If you are signed up under us, you can return to attend the training for free. All you have to do is bring someone you signed up under you!

Think about it. When you return with your recruit, you get to come for free, they pay us the $695, but YOU collect the $500 per loan when training THEM on their first three loans.

For us, we get our costs covered. It costs us at a MINIMUM $695 per person to put on a three day event. We don’t really make money unless you or your associates you sign up make money with placing loans.

They get profits from placing loans, giving them their educational investment back. You get trained associates, we build our shop. It is a win-win deal all around.

Guess what? Your associates can do the same. They can come back for free bringing as many people as they want AS LONG AS THOSE PEOPLE ARE SIGNED UP under them! You get the picture.

Will the ground floor be empty?

You are getting in on the ground floor, so you may be asking yourself…will the ground floor be empty of content? Since we are new at doing these trainings, will we be learning how to train on your dime?

Absolutely not. First of all, Barney will be at the first three trainings talking about Sales and Marketing. He spent 15 years teaching these topics to businesses from New York Stock Exchange firms down to a two-man firm in England. This is a secret part of his career not known to most real estate investors. His results have been staggering. One firm, a national blood testing company, said that after his training, sales rose 15% over their previously best month ever. The English direct mail company, that made over a million a year, got the biggest boost ever from Barney’s ideas, and that is after five years of searching for the best consulting in England and putting their ideas to play. Barney increased their profit margin!

Secondly, we have one of the best company trainers coming out to teach the two technical days. You will learn how to present our best loan to prospects, how to present the opportunity to recruits and how to do the loan paper work. It will be an information packed event.


Best way to sign up…

Do it via our web site at www.zick.com and we will follow-up or do it by calling our office 800-677-3253.



Remember: You may be my student, you may be my best friend and I MAY love you…but, I am not a lawyer.  I am not YOUR real estate broker.  You are not my client.  This e-mail is not intended as legal, real estate or accounting advice. 

 

"Financing Your Next Best Deal" Help Days

We will be in Orlando on Saturday, March 12th and in Tampa on Sunday, March 13th.  Join us in Houston on Sunday, March 20th.  Come learn the latest techniques in buying properties.

Go to www.zick.com and click on the link on the home page to enroll. It is free!

Or, click here to register: 

"Financing Your Next Best Deal" Help Day




Upcoming Events

Don’t miss uS on March 5th at the Houston RICH club and in Los Angeles at the REICLA Meeting on March 8th

Need more information?  Send us an email or call our office at 800-677-3253.


ONE-DAY EVENT TO BE HELD IN LOS ANGELES, SATURDAY MARCH 26TH


Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Airport Hotel
6101 W. Century Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90045
310-642-1111
8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m.


Special pricing available for REICLA members.

Announcing a Negotiating Seminar from Barney Zick that will use Real Estate Options (and other Financing tools) as an example to show you how to make more money when you buy!


“Barney” Zick, MBA, CCIM, Real Estate Investment Banker will share the secrets of successful deal making so you can attack any situation with confidence.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN:

·        How to negotiate and structure an option that does away with the seller’s worry that prices might continue    to go up!

·        How paying an extra $10 for a deal might save you over $50,000 in court ordered losses!

·        About a special group of Californians that will allow you to tie up properties for pennies on the dollar, giving you huge long-term profits. All you need to know is the magic words to say.

·        How to buy properties with an unlimited supply of down payment money, without interest, and without a credit check or personal liability.

·        The "Magic Words" to say when buying for nothing down that overcomes seller objections and makes the negotiations go smoother.

·        How to get both low down AND low interest.

·        The techniques pros use, like  "the Shout Back,” and also what to do to shut them down when the tactics are used on you.

·        How to get sellers to tell you their real motivations for selling.

·        How to ask the question so that the seller will tell you what is REALLY wrong with the property.

·        How to ask question that will get the seller to unknowingly tell you how to structure an offer.

·        A simple technique that will make the other side afraid to continue asking you to give in more and more.

·        Learn how to present Lease Options to buyers so that they will not want to negotiate.

·        How to get ZERO PERCENT FINANCING!

·        How to make $5000 a month without going to work!

·        How to buy for nothing down AND give the seller cash!

·        How to gain control of the cash you need to exercise your options.

·        How to double the chances your tenants cash you out.

·        How to make sure they don’t cash you out if you want to keep the property.

·        How to get quick cash for estate-building option deals.

·        How to get Zero interest financing.

·        How to use Rolling option & first right of refusal options.

·        How to use options when the seller is in foreclosure.

·        Tax tactics with Options

·        Options and Bankruptcy - a chance to save your net worth.



All new for 2005!! 

"How to Finance ANY Deal!" Three-Day Boot Camp

San Diego

Rescheduled for May 20th, 21st & 22nd!


All new for 2005!  Learn it all in one place at one time.  “Barney” Zick can show you...

“How to Finance ANY Deal!”

Announcing the most in-depth, intensive three-day Boot Camp you can imagine on real estate financing designed for people who are successful, aggressive real estate investors (or aspire to be someday soon)!  Investors know CASH IS KING and owner financing is the QUEEN!  

As a real estate investor, there is nothing like having the ability to know what investing approach to use, know how to structure it, and know how to present it to the seller and get it closed.  Being able to cash out properties is the “grease for the wheels” of this cash intensive business.  The three roads to financing will be taught...Lease Options, Owner Carried Loans and Conventional and Hard Money Loans.  You will also get an opportunity to sign up and receive hands-on training about becoming a loan originator in order to add another cash flow stream of income.

SIGN UP TODAY AND PAY ONLY $695 of the $2,195 fee.  The balance will not be due unless you complete a successful deal from what you have learned!  How can we do this?  We strongly believe that you will learn what you need to know for success and that you will easily do a profitable deal right after attending!  This way we have more at risk than you.

That’s right; if you don't make money we don't get paid the balance of the training fee.  The entire program can be self funding!  You will make money from what you learn…paying you back more than the cost of training.  All you have to do is USE these ideas and we will show you how! 

At the three-day “How to Finance ANY Deal” Boot Camp we will send you out to investigate deals and sign them up.  Then when you come back, we will fine tune your presentation to make getting more deals easier.




We have a two-day Mortgage Boot Camp coming up April 7th & 8th in Colorado.  If you have a certificate for a Mortgage Boot Camp, or the right to come as part of a package you purchased, please contact Karen Zick at karenfayj@hotmail.com for details. 




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